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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Ponder as You Wander, Patrick and Morgan talk about another leader we see in Scripture, Ezra, from the Old Testament. As leaders, we are always striving to grow and we are thankful for examples in the Bible to gain insight from. </p><p></p><p>Ezra 7 - stepped up as leader to help lead the exiles in Jerusalem. </p><p></p><p>Ezra's leadership:</p><p>High moral character</p><p>Great trust in God</p><p>Inspired people to prioritize their spiritual life</p><p></p><p><u>How to be like Ezra as a leader:</u></p><p></p><p>1. Know that other people are watching the life you live. Where are we leading them? Towards God?</p><p>Matthew 5:16 </p><p></p><p>2. Every life is an embodied argument about what's most important. What you choose to do with your time and how you treat people. </p><p></p><p><u>Uncommon leadership excellence:</u></p><p><u>﻿</u></p><p>1. Excellent leaders have a different standard of effort. </p><p>2. Aim with excellence.(Galatians 6:9)</p><p>3. Listen with excellence. (Proverbs 19:20 / Proverbs 13:10)</p><p>4. Be worthy of imitation. </p><p></p><p>To learn more about the Ozark Leadership Institute, please visit our website https://ozarkleadershipinstitute.com/. </p><p></p><p>To learn more about the Podcast or submit a contact request, please visit our website https://ozarkleadershipinstitute.com/podcast/ or email olipodcast@campozarkfoundation.org. </p>]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Ponder as You Wander released during Holy Week, Patrick and Morgan talk about Easter. As we get ready to celebrate Easter Sunday, take a moment to listen to this to learn more about the other days of Holy Week and why Easter is so important! </p><p></p><p>Easter - celebration of the resurrection of Jesus - most important miracle of God.</p><p></p><p>Lent - Holy Week - Easter</p><p></p><p>Lent - 40 day time leading up to Easter (technically 46 days if Sundays included). Begins with Ash Wednesday - reminder of Genesis 3:19.</p><p></p><p>Ash Wednesday - beginning of Lent</p><p>Holy Week: Palm Sunday - Maundy Thursday - Good Friday - Easter Sunday</p><p></p><p>Date of Easter - determined by the first Sunday after the first full moon after the spring equinox (anywhere from March 22 - April 25)</p><p></p><p>Good Friday - Good meant holy. Good for us. Paradox - extraordinarily tragic and terrible what Jesus endured. But absolutely necessary for us to be able to go to Heaven.</p><p></p><p>Easter Sunday - Jesus's resurrection - important to believe. Signature miracle. What led to our salvation - gives us the opportunity to spend forever with God.</p><p></p><p>To learn more about the Ozark Leadership Institute, please visit our website <a href="https://ozarkleadershipinstitute.com/" style="color:rgb(230,0,69);">https://ozarkleadershipinstitute.com/</a>. </p><p></p><p>To learn more about the Podcast or submit a contact request, please visit our website <a href="https://ozarkleadershipinstitute.com/podcast/" style="color:rgb(230,0,69);">https://ozarkleadershipinstitute.com/podcast/</a> or email <a href="mailto:olipodcast@campozarkfoundation.org" style="color:rgb(230,0,69);">olipodcast@campozarkfoundation.org</a>. </p>]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Ponder as You Wander, Patrick and Morgan discuss whether or not God really does care about us, as an individual! How could a God SO big, with SO many things to worry about and take care of, care about ME? Listen to find out! </p><p></p><p></p><p><u>Scripture References:</u></p><p></p><p>Nahum 1:7 / 1 Peter 5:7 - God cares about us.</p><p></p><p>Luke 12:7 / Matthew 10:30 - knows how many hairs on our head.</p><p></p><p>Psalm 139 - God knows everything about us.</p><p></p><p>2 Peter 3:9 / 1 John 2:2 / 1 Timothy 2 - cares about EVERYONE.</p><p></p><p>God is not confinded by the rules of the universe. He exists beyond it as its Creator.</p><p></p><p>Ephesians 3:20 - God can do immesurably more.</p><p></p><p>3 O's of God:</p><p>Omnipotent - all powerful</p><p>Omniscient - all knowing</p><p>Omnipresent - all present</p><p></p><p>Acts 17:27 - God is not far from any person.</p><p></p><p>What is the gospel? Ephesians 2:8-10 / Titus 3:4-8</p><p></p><p>Faith = salvation --&gt; works</p><p></p><p>Why should we care that God cares?</p><p>1. Your life matters! You were created on purpose with purpose!</p><p>2. You are not alone - God is with you!</p><p>3. You have hope!</p><p></p><p>To learn more about the Ozark Leadership Institute, please visit our website <a href="https://ozarkleadershipinstitute.com/" style="color:rgb(230,0,69);">https://ozarkleadershipinstitute.com/</a>. </p><p></p><p>To learn more about the Podcast or submit a contact request, please visit our website <a href="https://ozarkleadershipinstitute.com/podcast/" style="color:rgb(230,0,69);">https://ozarkleadershipinstitute.com/podcast/</a> or email <a href="mailto:olipodcast@campozarkfoundation.org" style="color:rgb(230,0,69);">olipodcast@campozarkfoundation.org</a>. </p>]]></description>
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      <description><![CDATA[<p>In this episode of Ponder as You Wander, Patrick and Morgan talk about doubt. We all experience different seasons and types of doubts in our faith. In this episode, we answer questions such as, is doubt bad? How do I overcome it? </p><p></p><p>Four Variations of Doubt:</p><p>1. Skepticism</p><p>2. Uncertainty</p><p>3. Imperfect Faith</p><p>4. Defiant Disbelief</p><p></p><p>Is doubt bad? Doubt itself is inherently neutral. It's about how you respond to your doubt! Motivating or corrosive.</p><p></p><p>Skepticism: Fact finder vs. Conspiracy Theorist.</p><p>Proverbs 1:7 / Proverbs 18:15</p><p></p><p>Uncertainty: Productive vs. Lazy</p><p>Proverbs 3:7 / Acts 8:30-31</p><p><a href="http://biologos.org/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);">biologos.org</a> / <a href="http://reasonablefaith.org/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);">reasonablefaith.org</a> / <a href="http://reasons.org/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);">reasons.org</a> / <a href="http://carm.org/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);">carm.org</a> / <a href="http://bibleproject.com/" style="color:rgb(17,85,204);">bibleproject.com</a></p><p></p><p>Imperfect Faith</p><p>Mark 9:21-25</p><p>"Imperfect faith is still real faith."</p><p></p><p>Defiant Disbelief</p><p>- Target immediately!!</p><p>Hebrews 11:6 / James 1:5-8</p><p></p><p>Proverbs 3:5-7</p><p></p><p>To learn more about the Ozark Leadership Institute, please visit our website <a href="https://ozarkleadershipinstitute.com/" style="color:rgb(230,0,69);">https://ozarkleadershipinstitute.com/</a>. </p><p></p><p>To learn more about the Podcast or submit a contact request, please visit our website <a href="https://ozarkleadershipinstitute.com/podcast/" style="color:rgb(230,0,69);">https://ozarkleadershipinstitute.com/podcast/</a> or email <a href="mailto:olipodcast@campozarkfoundation.org" style="color:rgb(230,0,69);">olipodcast@campozarkfoundation.org</a>. </p>]]></description>
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